tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post5262226720433313333..comments2023-03-31T15:37:08.135-04:00Comments on love, death, etc.: Life 101Howie Goodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-68452118535333142842010-01-27T11:31:06.773-05:002010-01-27T11:31:06.773-05:00A grand goal in living is pretty hard to determine...A grand goal in living is pretty hard to determine. Change happens too frequently to prioritize and give value to such things that you've mentioned. I feel that one can not just go through life wanting to achieve fame, happiness or power but that he or she must experience life's little struggles and achieve small goals in order to actually set and achieve ones big life goal. Personally I am a firm believer in focusing on the now, and knowing that my grand goal will be built up as my life unfolds. After reading these questions and thinking about what my response will be I will not only share my "grand goal" but my "now goal.” Fame, fortune, love, self-realization, change, escape, wisdom, power are all feelings and thoughts that have come in and out of my head these past 20 years, but there is one more that I would like to add. Although I said that life’s too inconsistent to have one big goal there is however a reoccurring goal of mine, trust. I think that our goals derive from some external thoughts or relationships and I have found that because of what I’d call a bad experience in the trust department, trust is what I strive for everyday. It’s hard to give your personal trust a value but what I believe is that my trust in other people is what’s valuable. This value is measured directly through interpersonal relationships and not just as one large category. Now the big, why? Everyone is ultimately out for themselves whether they like to admit it or not, but think of how hard it is to find someone you completely trust with your thoughts, life and remotely everything personal. For some this may come easy but I personally find this a very hard trait to find in others. Of course it may be my lack of trust in people but that’s why it is always my underlying goal. I want to trust. Now switching from my personal life goals, I’ll explain my thoughts on trust and ethics. Its almost obvious that these too go hand in hand due to the fact that trust goes hand in hand with cheatings, stealing, lying and other “unethical” acts but my question is, is it the fear of these unethical things that drive me to find the opposite? I think that I am searching so hard for the positive ethics of trust, yet just finding the negatives. The desire to trust is definitely driven by ethics, I want to be able to know that it’s possible to really just let go and give people the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t think people deserve it.eden rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10546568261030359343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-65403623504481128792010-01-27T10:48:21.503-05:002010-01-27T10:48:21.503-05:00It certainly is difficult to pinpoint one’s most i...It certainly is difficult to pinpoint one’s most important goal in living. I’m sure everyone has pondered this at some point. But as cliché as it may be and as many times as others have answered similarly before me, it really is true that happiness is the paramount goal.<br />You could have all of those things: fame, fortune, love, self-realization, etc. But without happiness, you can’t truly enjoy any of them no matter how great they are. And you could also have none of those things, but if you’re happy, your happiness can redeem you for all of the things you don’t have.<br />If I review the list of possible goals in life, I find that each of them could potentially be attained in an unethical way. But when it comes to happiness, I’m not sure if I could possibly be happy if my happiness was achieved in an unethical way.JustinMcCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15269120383734292342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-86570676564397465142010-01-27T08:42:23.417-05:002010-01-27T08:42:23.417-05:00I guess one of my biggest problems is that I'v...I guess one of my biggest problems is that I've never taken the time out to ask questions pertaining to what my goals in living are. Probably because I never take the time to ask what my goal for doing anything is, I tend to do things out of enjoyment and see what comes of it. <br /><br />What I struggle with most is sharing stories and personal experiences with people and gaining the intended reaction. So the most valuable goal in life, for me, would be discovering the perfect way to for me to share knowledge and experiences with other people. Once you get old, the most important purpose you have, is to share what you know and what you've learned.<br /><br />With the goal of figuring out how exactly I'm going to tell my story to the world, it will also motivate me to live a life worth telling about.Chanel Ariashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18164075086079742878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-10391705885723640122010-01-27T01:37:53.063-05:002010-01-27T01:37:53.063-05:00First things first, I believe no ultimate goals ar...First things first, I believe no ultimate goals are without ethical dilemmas. When you get down to it, who will you have to wrong in order to make yourself happy? Irvine is entirely correct in his assessment that many go through life aimlessly, no real end or meaning in mind. That's just taking the easy way out. What are people scared to face when they can't answer this question? Seems like many avoid it at all costs. I do believe that happiness is the most valuable goal to try and achieve. I would love to be noticed for my talents, and make even a small dent of a change in the world. I want to share parts of my passion with the world. I want to help, whether through my writing, words, or any other outlet. Money is a beautiful thing to have, but too ethically challenging to pursue without my conscious beating me to death. I absolutely consider my goals in ethical terms. I don't believe there's any other way to evaluate them, really. I believe the illusion that wanting personal happiness as a life goal turns out less ethical problems makes it subconsciously more appealing to me. I will follow this goal to the end, yet in no way am I free of ethical obstacles. Whatever happens along the way happens, I just know I want to be as ethically prepared for it as possible.Alana Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02555630574207546178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-70952591180789283312010-01-27T00:49:21.992-05:002010-01-27T00:49:21.992-05:00My only goal in life is to make sure that when I l...My only goal in life is to make sure that when I look back in the moments before I die, I don't find a wasted life. Other than that, I don't really know what I want from life. Do I want a family? Probably. A good job? I guess. But what matters most is that, in the long scheme of things, my life isn't a waste. Much of this does include things already discussed, like change and self-realization, but beyond that, I cannot really grasp at the idea of anything tangible being a life goal.<br /><br />As for the question of ethics, I'd consider making morally bad decisions a waste. When I look back on my life, I want to find that I made all the right choices. They might not be the ethical choices, but I hope they'll be the right ones.Andrew Limbonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647618960866973030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-88650771597382512312010-01-27T00:21:31.309-05:002010-01-27T00:21:31.309-05:00Change is the most attractive of the goals suggest...Change is the most attractive of the goals suggested. I believe that ethically conscious change is the true goal of every ethical person. Valuing change means that I do not accept a status quo that makes me unhappy, or collides with my ethical code. When I say I strive for change, it means that I am striving for a number of other goals at the same time. If I am single, then the change I am seeking is love. If I am broke, then the change I am seeking is a steady job. If I am unhappy about being a nobody, I will strive to make so much change around me that I can become famous. Stress, I must convert to escape. To change at all I am first required to understand myself, and my potential. How can I change for the better if I don’t even understand what’s best for me? Like Mike B. says above, being self-aware is a very important thing for anyone to do before they can truly meet their goals.<br />By this logic I profess that valuing change as a life goal is the same as valuing any and all other goals that a person could possibly have. This applies to both the smaller individual scale and the larger society level.<br />If I didn’t value change as the most important goal in my life I would consider myself apathetic. A lack of motivation to change means that I have lost my ability to see things critically. I have become a spectator without a voice; without concern for what it is I’m watching, like someone watching a reality TV show. I would accept the sub-prime. This is the epitome of unethical.<br />People who inspire the most change are some of the most respected in society and in history. They leave a legacy that is sometimes studied for generations. I think that every human has a natural desire to leave behind a legacy. Parents are driven by this motivation, just as experts in any field who wish to advance our society, or artists who want history to remember their art. Goals that do not involve leaving a legacy do not interest me. <br />The best thing I can hope for in life is that I will in some way change the world in any ethical way, and that someone will remember that I did it after I am gone.George Selbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05827647054867907378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-46457274946149192522010-01-26T23:57:54.371-05:002010-01-26T23:57:54.371-05:00Many people find themselves when at the end of the...Many people find themselves when at the end of their lives reviewing their accomplishments and re-playing their most memorable moments; having their life "flash before their eyes" so to speak. Wrapped up in that moment, some can't pin point the reason for their lives, and their meaning on earth. The Angelina Jolie's of the world will rest easy on their death beds, knowing that they have made an impact. Having been the modern day superhero, a philanthropist that is genuinely concerned for the well being of mankind. That is someone secure with how they used their time. The forty two year old man living in his parent's basement may have a hard time when looking for his relief. His flashback will consist of a string of dead end jobs in fast food restaurants and department stores. His life story is not a failure, that's what he has aimed for. Some people never want to grow up, being taken care of and being close to loved ones is what makes them happy and is how they want to live. <br /> I guess what I'm trying to say is that living for yourself and your own personal goals is what I value most in someone's character, as in my own. Knowing that I did what I felt was important and right by me will sooth my mind at the end of my days. I may strive to accomplish other goals along the way, but the bigger picture will always be, to do right by me and my values. Fame, fortune, power; those are all things that could be obtained, but are not as realistic as self- realization. As a kids we would always hear "reach for the stars", "live life to the fullest", that is what our lives have been based on. If all of the other things fall into place along the way, it will just make everything a little bit sweeter. It may seem selfish to say that self-realization is my grand goal in living, but when you look deeper into the issue, it seems like a reasonable choice. If fulfilling your own ability, and knowing you did your very best makes you happy and proud, it will be easy to accept love, and change as well as many other rewarding things.Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284154413270842544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-21321648748536084312010-01-26T23:03:18.693-05:002010-01-26T23:03:18.693-05:00Stepping on toes is part of life -- and ethics. Et...Stepping on toes is part of life -- and ethics. Ethical choices aren't always between right and wrong or good and bad. Sometimes they're between two goods, such as privacy and the public's right to know, or between truth-telling and minimizing harm. This is important to remember, as it means which must develop a method for considering our choices and for picking one to follow. And when we follow, toes definitely get stepped on.<br /><br />Every choice has consequences.Howie Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-71868185520230692252010-01-26T22:57:52.705-05:002010-01-26T22:57:52.705-05:00I think if I had to choose one of these choices as...I think if I had to choose one of these choices as my main goal it would be self-realization. At a different point in my life I think I would have said fame and at another point I would have said love, but ultimately right now I want to be self-realized. I honestly don't think I could achieve any of the other goals listed without it. I don't think I can find love until I truly love myself and I could not gain power without confidence in myself knowing that I have worked to my full potential. My second choice in this list would be wisdom but I also don't think one can truly gain knowledge until they realize that they don't know everything yet, another thing that can only be achieved through self-realization.<br /><br />I had not considered the ethics of this choice before now but I do believe that is an ethical one. It may seem a little selfish but at least I won't be stepping on any toes to achieve it. Only I can know when I have become self-realized so I wouldn't directly be having a positive influence on anyone else, but I think that being an honest, happy and so-called "good" person can have an indirect impact on everything.Samanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485174526029158657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-84552666614805688442010-01-26T21:33:01.268-05:002010-01-26T21:33:01.268-05:00It is so true that most people, including myself, ...It is so true that most people, including myself, have trouble naming their main goal in life. I can immediately say it isn’t fame, fortune, or power. I think the people that have these things are still missing and yearning for something more, such as celebrities who have “everything” and still are unhappy and unfulfilled. This lack of fulfillment may have to do with the ethical part of their brains or hearts, wherever it comes from, gnawing at them and telling them there has to be more. As the old and cliché saying goes, “money doesn’t buy happiness.” Although, I can sure tell you that if I had money to buy certain things my happiness-o-meter may move a little more to the left. I would have to say that self-realization is the most ethical choice in my eyes. To realize one’s potential and be at terms with it, well, it can be a beautiful thing. It can also be a sad thing. To dream forever of being a rock star (fame) and to finally realize you are a terrible guitar player can be heartbreaking, but there is so much truth in realizing what and who you are. Of course, love and family are very important things in life but knowing who you are, and loving it, is paramount. What good is realizing your true potential if you end up hating yourself? As did the classical Greeks, we value self-knowledge and knowing who we are allows us to establish our own code of ethics. After self-realization, we can better reach out in a personal relationship and in a family.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11123282422431186794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-77280138954745251062010-01-26T21:01:07.476-05:002010-01-26T21:01:07.476-05:00Although I have never stopped to think what my &qu...Although I have never stopped to think what my "grand goal in living" would be, I would have to say self-realization. I believe that all the listed life ambitions lead to self-realization. In my opinion self-realization leads to happiness, and it would probably take change in myself and the effect I wish to have in the world before I can accomplish it. On the way I may come across money (which in my opinion directly correlates with fame and fortune). I hope I will gain wisdom, and love. My escape from the norms of society and constraints of others will lead to my self-realization. I don't expect this will happen until I have changed my life around countless times and realize that my ultimate happiness is in my own existence and that what I do in the world really does matter. Self-realization covers them all and is the least superficial of them all, yet it may be considered selfish, I believe it includes true, eternal happiness.Victoria DiStefanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896845906254607692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-6164231402274221002010-01-26T19:45:48.214-05:002010-01-26T19:45:48.214-05:00you reflect a bit, you'll realize that what ma...you reflect a bit, you'll realize that what many of you are talking about is the relation between means and ends. good means lead to good ends, or at least can. bad means taint even good ends. that's what i infer from many of your posts.Howie Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-71146338410557812402010-01-26T19:31:58.386-05:002010-01-26T19:31:58.386-05:00I don't want to narrow my life goal down into ...I don't want to narrow my life goal down into one term, so I will describe my goals. I have a girl in my life that I have been with for quite a while, and almost everyday I imagine us living in a very rural area with a modest house and wild life all around us. My goal is to maintain the relationship I have with the person I love, live a good life by her side, as well as essentially living in the "woods". In order to obtain the home goal, I will have to aquire some sort of fortune, how much I do not know. All of these dreams full under the "happyness" umbrella. If this is how my life unravels, which I hope it will, I will be happy. If I achieve it unethically I don't believe I will be happy.DevonPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18180870925801423555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-63804412858387207392010-01-26T19:31:45.975-05:002010-01-26T19:31:45.975-05:00I have never really considered my grand goal in li...I have never really considered my grand goal in living because I have enough trouble just trying to figure out what to do after college, though my goal is to be a writer. I can say though that one of my main goals in life is to be happy with my life and what I'm doing. I think it is important to love what you do and get fulfillment out of it. Being happy and loving what you do is what makes it truly worth doing. I would say that going about achieving happiness ethically is also what makes it worth it. I think it provides a sense of true fulfillment. I can say that as long as I am happy, other potential goals, such as fortune, have less meaning to me. Aren't many goals set in the pursuit of happiness? I believe it is the ultimate goal in many people's lives because achieving goals makes a person happy.Sarah Boalthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04755557605019046363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-29352757811269258442010-01-26T18:22:07.357-05:002010-01-26T18:22:07.357-05:00By "fortune" I meant wealth or money -- ...By "fortune" I meant wealth or money -- but luck or chance, which is how Lindsey interpreted fortune, does play a giant role in our destinies. Are you lucky to have been born to your family? To be born or live in this country? To be graduating at the college during the time of the Great Recession? How does the fact that we DON'T entirely control fates affect our view of ethics? Does it make it more important to ground action and identity upon recognizable or less important? Is ethics a way through the chaos of human existence or simply a crutch to disguise the terror of human existence?Howie Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-76865943804807483852010-01-26T18:18:24.567-05:002010-01-26T18:18:24.567-05:00I would choose fortune above all. I believe It’s t...I would choose fortune above all. I believe It’s true that its better to be lucky than anything because good fortune can bring you fame, love, change, escape, self – realization, wisdom and power. With luck you can achieve all of these without actually possessing the capabilities of any of them. This choice was not based on ethics because one may not deserve everything they gain from having good fortune. The Ethical choice would be self – realization or wisdom. Each choice would allow you to better society without necessarily greatly benefiting yourself. Ethicality does make a choice more desirable if you wish to better yourself without hurting society; kind of like owning a hybrid.Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418235838316315721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-3444206826833670942010-01-26T18:06:16.537-05:002010-01-26T18:06:16.537-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418235838316315721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-39181346886649250732010-01-26T17:57:57.525-05:002010-01-26T17:57:57.525-05:00Michael reframes the question in an interesting wa...Michael reframes the question in an interesting way. He basically suggests we have a duty for self-improvement or self-cultivation -- a kind of "be all you can be" theme. An important moral philosopher, W.D. Ross, felt similarly that self-improvement was a prima facie duty, meaning it was a duty that was right or good on the face of it. So in desiring self-improvement we desire what is good or ethical. Of course, we need still to determine what we mean by the term "self-improvement." Michael seems to suggests it's developing our talents to their full potential. I would agree.Howie Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-17053120965344802002010-01-26T17:56:28.493-05:002010-01-26T17:56:28.493-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chelsea LaDuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11637697738166483707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-15103021635444383242010-01-26T17:55:33.218-05:002010-01-26T17:55:33.218-05:00I agree with Skeeter_Deeter. I think that everythi...I agree with Skeeter_Deeter. I think that everything people do in their lives is what makes them happy. The things we do in our day to day lives are done to further our happiness. I also agree with Crafty Green Poet when she says "happiness sneaks up on us while we're immersed in other things." For me, my biggest goal in life is to be successful at the career that I choose. I've witnessed my mother and father work in jobs they hate and I don't want that for myself. I want to ultimately became an editor for a magazine, and I feel like I would do that ethically, but sometimes we have to do things we don't want to to get what we want. The same goes for people who want love. Would they not step on someone else's toes to get the man/woman of their dreams? Of course, I also want love and family, but everything I've done in my life thus far is to achieve my goal of becoming successful in my career. To tie my goal into happiness: while I am achieving my ultimate goals in life, I feel like that's when I am happiest.Chelsea LaDuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11637697738166483707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-6241823340964907642010-01-26T17:45:19.943-05:002010-01-26T17:45:19.943-05:00I know what it is that I want out of life right no...I know what it is that I want out of life right now and I know what my main goals are in life at the moment. Im not sure when and how or if I ever will acheive them.<br />I agree with Kim Plummer when she talked about coming to realize how you fit in the world is very important to achieving your grand goal in life.<br /><br />I think maintaining a healthy balance between your goals and reality is powerful and in a way lets yourself free. <br /><br />This is because in, "realizing where you fit in the world" you allow yourself to realize your full potential as a person in relation to your goals and desires. Once this is realized, it is only ethical to yourself to do everything you can to fit how you define yourself. whether it be a musician, painter, writer, family man/woman, reporter, father ...etc.<br /><br />It is this state of feeling content with your life which is most important to me. Money, fame, luxury all comes second to the feeling of knowing that you have have done everything in your power to fufill your own life's goals.M.Blumenfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092629007177127203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-37457055218223654912010-01-26T17:35:13.536-05:002010-01-26T17:35:13.536-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.M.Blumenfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092629007177127203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-11941438681634121702010-01-26T15:59:18.475-05:002010-01-26T15:59:18.475-05:00I think that all of the aspects written in the que...I think that all of the aspects written in the question such as fame, fortune and so on are all small things that can lead to happiness. I agree with the previous posts that happiness is my main pursuit in life. Almost everyone would love to have fortune and even fame but then you have to think of the cliche saying, "money doesn't buy happiness" and I truly believe that. For me happiness is having my family and friends who support me and who are always there for me. Everything else such as achieving my dream job, having a nice house and car are little extras in life which can result in a short term happiness. Since it's the people I care about who make me happy I do believe that it is in ethical terms. And as for the question "Is it its ethicality that makes it desirable?" Even though it is ethically right that my family and friends are my main cause of happiness that is not the reason why I desire it. There are many things in life that can make people happy without ethicality playing a role. If you desire something and it is ethical you may just have a clearer conscious but I don't think it's the main reason to desire something.MBachmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16114976889050510509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-34328010359112907242010-01-26T14:49:51.698-05:002010-01-26T14:49:51.698-05:00I'd use somewhat different terms than Skeeter-...I'd use somewhat different terms than Skeeter-Deeter (really, guys, it'd be easier if you used your full and actual names)but I agree with the basic points. What Skeeter calls self-truth I'd call self-awareness and autonomy. By autonomy, I mean the capacity to act and decide for oneself matters of importance. I mean freedom.Howie Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725019693961191483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731549828645070176.post-46524926594730522992010-01-26T14:36:35.935-05:002010-01-26T14:36:35.935-05:00Aren't we here to be happy? Don't we live ...Aren't we here to be happy? Don't we live day by day attempting to improve our lives, to make them happier? Isn't that why we go to college? Isn't that why we were told in middle school to prepare for high school, told in high school to prepare for college, told in college to prepare for the real world? There's a standard "happiness template" that we all seem to be disillusioned by. Things don't make us happy, WE make ourselves happy by being able to control our own minds. That is why I believe truth to be the most valuable aspect of life. It's a broad word, truth can apply to many different aspects of one's live. But to me, self-truth, being able to know what you want to do and how you want to do it, weighing out the compromises we'll all have to ultimately make (how many decisions have you nullified because of how they might affect someone you know or love?) and becoming settled with those decisions. As far at ethics go, I believe living in constant attempt to discover truth, and to carry on as an honest person will bring you happiness. When one can live without disguising their needs, and by expressing his or her soul to its full potential -- that is what I believe to be the grandest goal in life.pspengemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773763115489379465noreply@blogger.com